¶ … Plato mean by justice?
Plato was not a neutral observer of the time and culture in which he lived. On the contrary, he was highly critical of what he considered the decadent and corrupt state of Athens. He saw the political system being undermined by men motivated by self-satisfaction and greed, by amateur self-interested meddling in important matters of state and government, and by excessive individualism in every aspect of life. The remedy for all this, in his view, was a society based on the principles of 'justice', and he outlined the nature of such an ideal society in his Republic. The question of what exactly justice is, is thus a centrally important one to Plato and large sections of The Republic are devoted to this issue.
There were many ideas about justice before Plato, and he uses Book I of his Republic to consider some of the prevailing notions. The discussion follows the classic pattern of the Socratic dialogue: a question is posed ('What is justice?'), several answers are proposed in turn, and each is questioned and criticised in an attempt to define what justice really is. The elderly, wealthy Cephalus suggests that justice is a matter of being honest to all and repaying one's debts -- a definition that Socrates argues is insufficient, for while returning borrowed arms to a lunatic would be repaying a debt it would hardly be a just act: 'everyone would surely say that if a man takes weapons from a friend when the latter is of sound mind, and the friend demands them back when he is mad, one shouldn't give back such things, and the man who gave them back would not be just' (331c). The next speaker is Polemarchus, Cephalus's heir, who suggests that returning weapons to a madman would not be 'fitting', and justice is doing what is fitting to people, so that each receives 'just what's owed to them' (332b), whether it be good for friends or harm for enemies. Socrates's response to this is to ask who is best placed to give a good to a friend: for example, would Polemarchus accept the good of medicine from a just person or from a physician, or the good of food from a just person or from a farmer? Polemarchus chooses the professional in each case, which leads Socrates to ask him, in that case, what use a just person is? Polemarchus responds that he is useful when goods are being stored and need to be guarded, which leads Socrates to suggest that justice is apparently at its most useful when goods are at their most useless, i.e. when they are being stored rather than used: 'is justice useless in the use of each and useful in its uselessness' (333d)? Furthermore, is not the person standing guard over the goods the person best placed to take them, thus making the just person a thief; is a person necessarily able to judge between true friends and enemies, ensuring that good only goes to the former; and can the just person ever deliberately harm a person, for example by forcing an unjust person to be just against their nature? With Polemarchus dealt with, Thrasymachus intervenes to suggest that justice is whatever the strongest decide it is, and that the strong decide that whatever is in their best interest is just. Socrates dismisses this by pointing out that the strong are no more able than anybody else to understand what their best interest is, which means that whatever they come up with cannot be justice, since justice is a good thing.
The views propounded by Cephalus and Polemarchus, and criticized by Plato through the comments of Socrates, reflect prevailing Greek morality. Plato finds them unsatisfactory because of their emphasis on individualism; they seek to regulate justice on the basis of relationships between individuals, based on flawed individual perceptions and self-interested individual morality. Plato sees this as ignoring the needs of society as a whole and transforming what should be a system designed for the common good into one intended to provide benefits to the individual. Similarly Thrasymachus's argument that justice is whatever the strong say it is fails to take into account that any art -- whether medicine, pottery, or governance -- has as its main interest its subject rather than itself, so that just as the doctor 'prescribes with a view not to his own interest but that of his patient' (342d) so no ruler 'exercises his authority, whatever...
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